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Statement from Susan Rice about Maliki endorsing Barack Obama's 16-month-withdrawal plan:
"Senator Obama welcomes Prime Minister Maliki's support for a 16 month timeline for the redeployment of U.S combat brigades. This presents an important opportunity to transition to Iraqi responsibility, while restoring our military and increasing our commitment to finish the fight in Afghanistan."
I have a feeling what comes next from the campaign will be far more emphatic.
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posted at 12:15 pm on July 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
Here’s the exchange from Spiegel’s English translation, duly hyped by Reuters as tacit evidence of Liberal Jesus’s foreign-policy sagacity.
SPIEGEL: Would you hazard a prediction as to when most of the US troops will finally leave Iraq?
Maliki: As soon as possible, as far as we’re concerned. US presidential candidate Barack Obama is right when he talks about 16 months. Assuming that positive developments continue, this is about the same time period that corresponds to our wishes.
The unasked follow-up question: How about the 14-month timetable that Obama wanted to set in January 2007 to start pulling troops out before those positive developments could occur? How keen does that look in hindsight? To repeat a point made yesterday, the only reason a timetable or “time horizon” is arguably a responsible strategy now is because it was properly rejected as being irresponsible then. Maliki hints at that in another part of the interview:
So far the Americans have had trouble agreeing to a concrete timetable for withdrawal, because they feel it would appear tantamount to an admission of defeat. But that isn’t the case at all. If we come to an agreement, it is not evidence of a defeat, but of a victory, of a severe blow we have inflicted on al-Qaida and the militias.
Exactly, which at least partly explains why Bush is more willing to compromise now on some sort of informal schedule. Compare Maliki’s justification for the timetable to Obama’s justification in his big Iraq speech. The pacification of the country is almost incidental, something to congratulate Petraeus on and then quickly move past. To the extent conditions in Iraq seem to affect his rationale at all, he offers this: “In the 18 months since the surge began, as I warned at the outset – Iraq’s leaders have not made the political progress that was the purpose of the surge. They have not invested tens of billions of dollars in oil revenues to rebuild their country. They have not resolved their differences or shaped a new political compact.” I.e. it didn’t work, so let’s get out. Back to Maliki for a rebuttal:
SPIEGEL: In your opinion, which factor has contributed most to bringing calm to the situation in the country?
Maliki: There are many factors, but I see them in the following order. First, there is the political rapprochement we have managed to achieve in central Iraq. This has enabled us, above all, to pull the plug on al-Qaida. Second, there is the progress being made by our security forces. Third, there is the deep sense of abhorrence with which the population has reacted to the atrocities of al-Qaida and the militias. Finally, of course, there is the economic recovery.
He’s exaggerating the extent of the reconciliation, but not entirely.
One more quote from the interview which I dare say won’t be making it into the inevitable Team Barry press release. The fact that Maliki thinks the war was good for Iraqis doesn’t mean it was good for America, needless to say, but Obama fans eager to exploit the timetable bit may want to mull this before baptizing his judgments with Absolute Moral Authority:
SPIEGEL: Mr. Prime Minister, the war and its consequences have cost more than 100,000 lives and caused great suffering in your country. Saddam Hussein and his regime are now part of the past. Was all of this worth the price?
Maliki: The casualties have been and continue to be enormous. But anyone who was familiar with the dictator’s nature and his intentions knows what could have been in store for us instead of this war. Saddam waged wars against Iran and Kuwait, and against Iraqis in the north and south of his own country, wars in which hundreds of thousands died. And he was capable of instigating even more wars. Yes, the casualties are great, but I see our struggle as an enormous effort to avoid other such wars in the future.
For context, here’s Petraeus on MSNBC yesterday afternoon (before the Spiegel interview was published) responding to reports that Maliki wants a timetable. He fudges a bit with the “time horizon” terminology, but note well the point about domestic politics and assertions of sovereignty. Another “positive development.” Exit question: What do we do now with that NYT piece from the other day about Iraqis who love Obama for bringing Hope but pray that the U.S. security presence doesn’t Change?
Update: Spend some time with this AP story about U.S. troops — who would have been reduced to a small Baker/Hamilton token force by now if Obama had had his way last year — helping Iraqi villagers rebuild after purging Al Qaeda. Quote: “It reveals how drastically American troops have shifted their focus from combat to helping Iraqis build on a newfound, if fragile, peace. And it reflects a continuing concern among U.S. commanders that the security gains could slip.” Not just U.S. commanders either, per the NYT piece.
Update: A commenter notes that Spiegel has rewritten the translation of the exchange about withdrawal to read as follows. There’s nothing in the article calling attention to the change; they’re trying to put one over on their readers, it seems.
SPIEGEL: Would you hazard a prediction as to when most of the US troops will finally leave Iraq?
Maliki: As soon as possible, as far as we’re concerned. U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes.
They’ve dropped the contingency about positive developments continuing, although it’s still implied by the part about potentially changing the plan. Did Maliki contact Spiegel and ask them to drop that part so that the quote would sound more assertive back home? Hard to believe the original translation would have been so off as to include a bit about “positive developments” that he never said.
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 2:21pmScrolled.
Only a RepubliCANT sheeple-troll would hold the words of someone calling themselves "AllahPundit" and posting on "hotair.com" as Gospel. The rest of us think for ourselves.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 19, 2008 - 4:38pmYou don't think for yourselves.
Michtou proved that, when she expressed the belief that fu bush2 proved something by posting an opinion piece by Media-Matters. You people only believe what they tell you to believe. That's not thinking for yourselves.
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By leftysrsickJuly 19, 2008 - 6:53pmHi Again, Dummy!
Hey hatey, Krauthammer may be paralyzed from the neck down, but you're paralyzed from the neck UP! HA! I'm going to follow your dumb ass around and spam you with that all weekend, then you can tell us how you like it, shit head!
Bye, Dummy!
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By othelloJuly 19, 2008 - 7:07pmTry thinking
Media-Matters was commenting on ABC. I was commenting on ABC.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower
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By MichtouJuly 19, 2008 - 8:05pm"Try thinking"
You're asking the impossible of hatey!
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By othelloJuly 19, 2008 - 8:14pmYou were commenting on what media matters said about ABC
You didn't go to the source, did you? If you had, you would have brought it up in the first place, instead of waiting for fu to post that opinion piece from that biased source. Your not very honest, are you. You just justify your failure to think for your self. But, you can't hide the truth from yourself. You know your biased, and don't think for yourself. You don't seek out information, but rely solely on others opinions to form what you think.
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By leftysrsickJuly 20, 2008 - 11:24amBy leftysrsickJuly 20, 2008 - 11:24am
Classic projection from a typical reich-wing sycophant that would quit wiping his ass if Rush told him that not wiping your ass was the patriotic thing to do.
George W. & George H.W. Bush - Living proof that the dumbshit doesn't fall far from the dumbass.
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By Guy FawkesJuly 20, 2008 - 11:58amBy leftysrsick July 19, 2008 - 6:53pm
NO...jack-assed sock-puppet....
NO, YOU JACK-ASSED SOCK-PUPPET.....
we take ALL of the information that we get from the left and the right and form our own opinions. Unlike you dittoheads.
w
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By roadgoddessJuly 19, 2008 - 8:49pmYou're projecting again.
Blindly parroting the drug addict is NOT "thinking for yourself"...it's being a RepubliCANT.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 19, 2008 - 10:12pmHA! This Coming From The Moron That Plagiarizes His Insults!
"You don't think for yourselves".
By leftysrsick July 19, 2008 - 6:53pm
I caught this jerk off stealing all of the insults he was throwing around from some different web sites. He was plagiarizing them word for word.
You really are an idiot, hatey.
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By othelloJuly 21, 2008 - 9:47pm100,000 lives
isn't it more like 655,000?
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By blogbobJuly 19, 2008 - 6:10pmUnless God Pundit can read
Unless God Pundit can read Arabic, he cannot comment about an updated translation.
What an arrogant ass, to call himself GodPundit.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower
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By MichtouJuly 19, 2008 - 6:31pmhttp://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/D/2/0/allahpundit/
Allah Is In The House Blog
Allah Is in the House began on August 27, 2003. The author wrote in the persona of Allah, using similar language to that of terrorist organizations but assuming the viewpoint of the God such organizations follow. (The author distinguished between the violent and hateful viewpoint being satirized and the viewpoint of mainstream Muslims.) The blog specialized in written and Photoshop-based political satire. After a hiatus in May 2004, the blog reemerged, continuing its satiric nature while largely abandoning the "Allah voice". However, after October 2004 the blog stopped being regularly updated and abandoned the web address allahpundit.com. After occasional entries at allahakbar.blogspot.com, the blog shut down altogether.
In September 2004, Allahpundit was a key player in the Killian documents controversy. Mary Mapes, producer of the 60 Minutes, blamed Allahpundit, among others, for "working anonymously in what appeared to be huge numbers, in unison, to destroy the Bush-Guard story."[2] Largely due to this controversy, the website was among the Top Blogs Cited in Political Postings for the United States presidential election, 2004.[3]
The blog's unique approach and timely humor caused it to become greatly popular days after its inception, and its information and humor led it to be cited by many of the top conservative bloggers[4][5][6][7][8] and many blog-sympathetic writers [9][10] of the time including Roger L. Simon, who wrote, "These days I learn more from Allahpundit, where I found this link, than I ever do from Meet the Press."[11]
[edit] Guest blogging
Under the name Allahpundit, he guest-blogged for Michelle Malkin in March and April 2006[12][13], before becoming the most active contributor to Malkin's newly founded Hot Air website, which, like the blogger's old website, is referenced by bloggers and blog-sympathetic reporters.[14] Malkin has credited Allahpundit with "turn[ing] the site into a must-read" and thus causing the site to go "from nowhere to a top-30 site on Technorati's Top 100 list."[15] Allah Is in the House posts are archived at the Internet Archive, although the image files, which include the Photoshopped pictures[who?] for which the site was well known, are
From Wikipedia
So you know who is, Michtou. He is quite well known.
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By leftysrsickJuly 19, 2008 - 6:48pmHe's quite well known, I
He's quite well known, I guess, among the 20%ers.
There is nothing in that article that shows that he understands either Arabic or Middle Eastern culture. In other words, he's just another blowhard.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower
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By MichtouJuly 19, 2008 - 7:04pmHe can.
And does.
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 6:49pmHe hasn't shown any ability to do so.
And if he understood either Arabic or the Middle Eastern culture, he would use a different name.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower
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By MichtouJuly 19, 2008 - 7:05pmABC News/Wash. Post withheld results of poll favorable to Obama
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By f u bush2July 19, 2008 - 2:47pmProof that the media is not
Proof that the media is not liberal.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower
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By MichtouJuly 19, 2008 - 4:26pmA media matters post is proof of nothing but
propaganda.
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 10-13, 2008, among a random national sample of 1,119 adults, including additional interviews with randomly selected African Americans, for a total of 209 black respondents. The additional interviews (commonly referred to as an "oversample") were completed to ensure there were enough African American respondents for separate analysis; the group was not over-represented in the reported results from the full sample. The results from the full survey have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa.
FUNNY, THE POSTER TRYED TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A NEWS ARTICLE INSTEAD OF AN OPINION PIECE. I WONDER WHY? I ALSO WONDER WHY IT WASN'T ATTRIBUTED TO MEDIA MATTERS?
YOUR A FRAUD FU BUSH2
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 5:59pm"TRYED"
It's TRIED you moron. Jesus Christ, can't you even check your sloppy work? Typical republicunt; do a sloppy job, fuck EVERYTHING up, then start looking for some one else to take the blame ( read "Bush's Iraq Debacle" ).
Like I said before, spam-bot; Krauthammer may be paralyzed from the neck down, but you're paralyzed from the neck up!
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By othelloJuly 19, 2008 - 6:25pmIts amazing that your focus is on spelling
when it should be on someone posting propaganda.
You need to get your priorities straight.
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By leftysrsickJuly 19, 2008 - 6:38pmHi Dummy!
So we agree, f u bush3 ( aka YOU ) is posting propaganda.
We all knew it. Tell us something we don't know, like why you won't enlist, chicken hawk.
Krauthammer may be paralyzed from the neck down, but you're paralyzed from the neck UP! It's not working out very well for you either, shit head.
Bye, Dummy!
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By othelloJuly 19, 2008 - 7:12pmHi Again, Dummy!
You and your sock puppet need to start checking your sloppy work instead of trying to pin the blame on your fuck ups on others.!
You're paralyzed from the neck up.
Bye, Dummy!
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By othelloJuly 19, 2008 - 7:15pmAre you still being duped into killing your wife?
Isn't that who your posting name is famous for. Hell of a name for someone to take for themselves, isn't it? A stupid wife killer?
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 8:53pmHi Again, Dummy!
I see you're still blathering on about my name because your arguments are lame and untenable.
All you have left is smear, distract and dodge.
I would try and explain the story of Othello, The Moor of Venice to you, but it is WAY over the head of a buffoon like you.
Why did you squander that free public education you were offered?
Krauthammer may be paralyzed from the neck down, but YOU are paralyzed from the neck UP! HA!
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By othelloJuly 19, 2008 - 9:44pmHi Again, Dummy!
You're named "Fuck You Bush 3 ( Bush 3 being McCain/McBush )".!
Everyone knows McCain would be serving Bush's 3rd term ( as if he even had a shot at the office! )! Why are you the only one that doesn't, Dummy?
Not very bright, are you? ( rhetorical question )
Krauthammer may be paralyzed from the neck down, but you are paralyzed from the neck up!
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By othelloJuly 19, 2008 - 10:00pmYour a dupe, just like the original Othello.
Scammed into committing murder of his wife. Just like your scammed into believing the propaganda posted on this site.
Othello othello, such an ignorant fellow.
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 10:39pmHi Again, Dummy!
Wrong again, I don't believe ANY of the propaganda you post on this site!
You are in WAY over your head, but keep trying, I find it amusing!
I told you the story of Othello was too complicated for a boot licker such as yourself to comprehend! Hell, you don't even know the difference between 'your' and 'you're'! HA! You don't make any sense!
fu bush3, fu bush 3, open your mouth so Cheney can pee!
You're my puppet, keep clowning and entertain us!
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By othelloJuly 19, 2008 - 10:59pmMedia Matters: The Steps of Propaganda
Media Matters seems to have lost control. In its Wed, May 2, 2007 piece entitled, 'Schlussel claimed Media Matters is "Nazi-funded"', its propaganda soldiers jumped on a blogger for the following sentence: "After all, I wouldn't want to disappoint my friends from the deceptively-named, Nazi-funded Media Matters for America." Media Matters found space and time on its valuable real estate to attack a blogger for a single sentence and did so in setting her up as a 'nutcase' first. But in doing so, Media Matters simply exposed both their desperation at being overwhelmed with facts and their frustration at the consistent, factual exposure to what Media Matters, moveon.org, Open Society and the Tides Foundation really are. And just in time, too.
Good ol' Keith Olbermann joined in to make her a worst winner. Debbie Schlussel just goes to show the far left and George Soros only use or abuse bloggers. Bloggers are not 'media' and they just don't matter, unless they are used to push an agenda that has nothing to do with the feel-good group hug the liberals bloggers want.
Media Matters has a habit of drolling on in the same way, about their sugar daddy. They refer to him as "financier, philanthropist, and political activist." He sure is. He finances overthrows of governments, philanthropist-izes himself into a felony conviction and works within the political frame of our two party system to give 'activist' the meaning it had before it became slang. George Soros not only funds Media Matters through a web of organizations, he is actively using his money and his influence, to overthrow this country, just as he has done with other countries prior.
Would Media Matters bother to address any of that? Not likely! They like 'financier, philanthropist, and political activist' George Soros and they always distance themselves from him, like the good propaganda ministry soldiers they are.
Media Matters says "Soros, who is founder and chairman of Open Society Institute (OSI), has contributed generously to progressive organizations -- including America Coming Together, MoveOn.org, and the Campaign for America's Future." Sounds all nice and cuddly, doesn't it? Actually, Soros uses the front of the Open Society (which is another word for 'how to make the world a Soros world') to funnel money into other 'organizations' who can then claim no Soros funding. It is nothing but an upside down pyramid scheme.
OSI's money comes from Soros, it goes to places like the Tydes Foundation, where it is then funneled again into lower organizations who are then able to claim never to have received money from George Soros. That makes Soros The Shadow, behind the party he wants to have so much he'll spend every dime you have to get it. (What do you think donations to those organizations are for anyway? Without donations they would be funded by Soros alone. With donations, they allow you to buy a piece of the deception so you cannot become wise to it or you will expose yourself.)
Media Matters is in business to attack the enemy. The enemy to the gullible press (not the complicit press, who know better) is the conservative. (To those who know better the enemy is the republican form of government where capitalism does not funnel the cash to the leaders unless they do it with taxes.) The method Media Matters employs is one of selective focus. If an individual lived in a selective focus they would reside in their own reality and would indeed be mentally unstable. But to use selective focus on purpose is the very definition of deception.
Selective focus is a method whereby an apple can relate to an orange because they are not only fruits, but they are nearly round and they grow on trees and they are colorful and those trees have leaves and those leaves are the same color, and by golly an apple therefore must be an orange.
Just substitute any topic Media Matters writes about with the apple-orange sentence and fill in the blanks after removing the fruit. It is the art of spin (which as a term has nearly gone away in today's politics). Today, it is so much expected to be used by all sides in any issue that it is ignored. We are jaded with spin. So it makes total sense that employing it as a matter of course makes Media Matters' name all that more appropriate. To propaganda, the media is ALL that matters.
Hiding it in plain site is the best place to put something when you think you know something no one else does about it. But it is very stupid if you don't. That is a risk many people take. In court or in any 'document dump', submitting a paper mill full of documents as evidence and putting the stuff that matters to the case inside of it, counts on lawyers and politicians being lazy when they are convinced the title makes them smarter and they simply never bother to read what will do them in. When they do read they only get from it what they expect from it. They never bother to understand what something really means. Meaning doesn't matter. Only the media does.
Another example of selective focus is this comparison from Media Matters: "On the May 18 (not this May) edition of FOX News Channel's The O'Reilly Factor, Poe and host Bill O'Reilly agreed that Soros is opposed to religion. Poe said Soros is a "militant atheist ... he makes it very plain that he considers people who are born again Christians and presumably people who are devout believers of any sort are idiots who should not hold public office." O'Reilly responded, "All right, so he wants an open society, Soros does. And that means a secular society, no trace of religion in it or spirituality..." [FOX News Channel, The O'Reilly Factor, 5/18/04]" (All sources available at the Media Matters website.)
Media Matters then proceeds to actually pretend to believe that any truly thinking human being would fall for this: "A quick look at Soros' Open Society Institute website reveals that if Soros really wants a "secular society" with "no trace of religion in it," he's going about it all wrong: OSI has made numerous contributions to religious organizations." Selective focus. The topic changed from 'secularist' to 'philanthropist'. If he gives he must not be whatever, whomever it was, said about him. Of course back in May of 2004 when Media Matters was being the official George Soros protectorate as well as the propaganda wing, they were not able to count on Soros not doing the exact same thing in another area. Halliburton.
Soros bought greatly into Halliburton. Why? Media Matters undoubtedly now has the issue in their ready file. Anytime, anyone questions Soros' anti-military, anti-American bent why... no way. See? He owns a lot of Halliburton. For a Hedge Fund manipulator, Soros knows how to hedge his bets.
Now, Media Matters has embarked on a crusade to slay the dragons of the right. Those fire breathing, Neanderthal radio and television commentary hosts are in trouble now, boy. On the Media Matters website today (5/2/07), another trick of the propagandist is shown in full color. On the left; the dreaded dragon of lower ratings, Glen Beck about to expose Al Gore and global warming as the frauds they are: on the right the despised dragon of the highest ratings; Bill O'Reilly who has hit Media Matters very recently: and in the middle, good ol' Chris Matthews. Don't worry. Chris has not gone afoul of his bread and butter. He is the sacrificial lamb for this story. Nothing happens to him. He just gets a story written about him that conservatives are expected to relish in, making him the comic relief of the story, (or more accurately, the pansy.) And that belief is expected to help defray the disbelief and potential anger conservatives would feel in reading the literal spin-Meister deceptions of Media Matters.
The first step in propagandizing a topic (taking control of it) is to accuse your enemy of doing what you do or of what you are working on getting done. This is the job of the politician and the complicit press. O'Reilly exposed the latter's connection in his first recent installment on Soros.
The second step in propagandizing a topic (using it for your own advantage) is to apply inductive reasoning to any fact presented, making it your topic and demonizing the enemy. This is the job of Media Matters, Air America, Rosie O'Donnell, Al Gore and others with an audience.
The third step in propagandizing a topic (justifying your demonization) is to rely on a source you can claim is credible (never mind who pays for it) and pointing to the inductive logic as proven by the highly exalted 'study' or 'expert opinion'. (You can double your efforts if you use a mole inside the enemy to do your support evidence like prominent conservatives jumping on the President when they are in league with the ACLU or the current Conservatives for the Support Hillary campaign not one conservative could live with.) This is the job of academia, think tanks, talking head sources and the ever popular 'poll' asked just the right way and weighted just enough to make it appear valid. And is topped off by the well timed publication of a book by a well known author.
Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity have been exposing George Soros for what he is, a dictator in waiting, and defense of that has to be addressed by the propaganda wing of the Shadow party, even catching a blogger in the crosshairs.
An article written in 2005 was quickly repackaged for distribution by Indiana University on May 2, 2007 in support of Media Matters' attack on O'Reilly. The 'article' (even though it has charts and graphs and pretty colors, is not a peer reviewed scientific publication yet it is presented by a 'university'!) is used as supporting evidence in the demonization of Bill O'Reilly in response to O'Reilly's expose' of Media Matters.
Sean Hannity's expose' of moveon.org is undoubtedly about to be countered with statistical evidence presented by a former janitor at Harvard, repackaged for today's gullibility and provided with media contacts. The Indiana article is not signed. It carries no attributed authors. It does list media contacts from the IU School of Journalism and the Department of Telecommunications (expect your instant lottery winnings in the mail, marked as 'official' any day now, or press 2 for support.) And as we all know, media matters. The facts, the truth, the source, the authors, the sponsor (not one word shows who paid for that study in 2005 or whether it was even written by the University staff or students or the same janitor) are not important. Just the media matters.
And as the Queen of England arrives to celebrate some 400 year anniversary, the complicit press points out as a 400 year birthday party: the propaganda-ites are reeling in their glee. In one celebration they get a redefinition of America. America becomes a nation founded by an evil British corporation for profit that dealt in attempted genocide, bought and used slaves, started the slave movement in the center of the continent and worst of all nearly died out trying. And the soldiers of the Soros brigade are confident very well, that the decadent, pathetic masses of the American population will believe anything for a celebration and especially an excuse for a beer party. And this administration is so corn-pone, so 'Texas', so easy a prey they will never figure it out and don't have the guts to do anything about it if they did. They can't even testify with more than another; 'I don't recall' or 5th Amendment crutch.
The fact is, nothing can be further from the truth. Jamestown did not found this country. Jamestown was British all the way. The country was not born 400 years ago. England showed its medieval ignorance and the far left wants to make that mistake America's fault as well. If you buy 400 years (not that Time Magazine will let you get away with not) you are buying into the 'America is evil' crowd. Initiation, step one. Step two is when you start thinking; 'we did start out so wrong': and that is the moment you lose control of your figurative soul.
The birth of this nation was at the moment the founding fathers joined together to leave the King's rule. The birth of this country was when the declaration of that act was signed. Slavery was already accepted practice in the ignorance of power hungry people. Because the founding fathers owned slaves does not mean the nation they founded is wrong. It took a very long time to officially get rid of that mentality, as it took a long time to get rid of the concept of the earth rotating around the sun, and now, while the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. rolls over in his grave, the 'progressives' want to use the ancestors of slaves for a tool to gain power for themselves. They always have.
Meanwhile, the Second Amendment Foundation calls for Alberto Gonzales to resign because he doesn't want terrorists to have gun licenses. It is an apple and orange story but Media Matters undoubtedly has watched it like the good Propaganda soldiers they are. Conservative gun owners want the Attorney General to resign (never mind the narrow-minded topic behind the curtain) and that fits with the plan to drag up as much dirt as possible so the mass delusion results in the belief of corruption certain in the Bush Administration and it follows the three parts of propaganda quite well.
But there is an Achilles heel. Soros never got to watch Perry Mason.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/24816.html
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 8:59pmBy fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 8:59pm
More spam from the spammer.
Personally I think hatey should keep the name similar to mine because he is acknowledging how I am his master. I kicked his ass all over these boards on more than one occasion. And like a little baby he violated the TOS.
So I say this is the best name for hatey in honor of his master: me.
The only thing I'd change though is to raise the number higher. Make it "fu bush5" to indicate how many times he's been banned. Then increment it each time he gets banned again.
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By f u bush2July 19, 2008 - 10:04pmBy MichtouJuly 19, 2008 - 4:26pm
I don't often check media matters. But I remember seeing that poll of 8% lead for Obama the other day and I wanted to see if the television media covered it so I checked media matters.
Sure enough one of the networks tried to bury it.
Media Matters is pretty good.
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By f u bush2July 19, 2008 - 9:57pmYou a propagandist for media matters. Why you lie?
Oil prices tumble in biggest weekly drop ever
Saturday July 19, 4:16 am ET
By Adam Schreck, AP Business Writer
As the price of oil drops dramatically, some analysts wonder if the bubble is bursting
NEW YORK (AP) -- The price of oil recorded its biggest weekly drop ever, and a gallon of gas finally pulled back from its record high. So is it time to declare the energy bubble popped?
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 10:34pmBy fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 10:34pm
It would appear that "some analysts" are just as stupid as you are. Of course they're being PAID to PLAY dumb. You, on the other hand, seem to be the genuine dumbfuck article.
George W. & George H.W. Bush - Living proof that the dumbshit doesn't fall far from the dumbass.
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By Guy FawkesJuly 19, 2008 - 10:40pmYAWN!!!!!!!!
YAWN.....................................
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 10:45pmTranslation
sockpuppets(R)sick spewed "WAAAH! Nobody's paying attention to me!"
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 20, 2008 - 1:05amHillary Hillary Hillary
Media Matters’ links to Hillary are at once intimate and multitudinous, and the organization’s devotion to her is nothing short of profound. In 1996 (eight years before Media Matters’ creation), the then-conservative David Brock was commissioned (with a $1 million advance) by the Simon & Schuster subsidiary Free Press to write a hard-hitting expose of Hillary. But the book, completed in 1997, turned out to be nothing more than a tepid, distinctly sympathetic account of the former First Lady’s life. That same year (1997), Brock publicly announced his political epiphany, unequivocally recanting his previous negative writings about the Clintons and embracing the liberal/Left cause. During this period, Brock developed a close relationship with Neel Lattimore, Senator Clinton’s openly gay press secretary and close confidante. Brock would eventually hire Lattimore as a director of “special projects” for Media Matters.
Brock’s affinity for Mrs. Clinton grew over time, and vice versa. According to Glenn Thrush of Newsday, Hillary “advised Brock on creating” Media Matters in 2004, “encouraging the creation of a liberal equivalent of the Media Research Center, a conservative group that has aggravated Democrats for decades.” Thrush reports that Hillary still “chats with [Brock] occasionally and thinks he provides a valuable service . . .” “For her part,” Thrush adds, “Clinton’s extended family of contributors, consultants and friends has played a pivotal role in helping Media Matters grow from a $3.5 million start-up in 2004 to its current $8.5 million budget.”
There was more in this September 7, 2006, Newsday article of note (emphasis added):
"David is immensely valuable to Hillary," says a wealthy Democrat with ties to Brock, speaking anonymously.
Brock's mediamatters.org Web site debunks attacks on all prominent Democrats and has been funded by donors with connections to many party leaders.
Still, it's been particularly kind to Clinton. The site posts three to four articles per week chiding perceived Clinton bashers from Bill O'Reilly to Tucker Carlson to The New York Times. When Brock listed his 2005 accomplishments, he highlighted his point-by-point dissection of Ed Klein's error-strewn Clinton biography.
There are other Clinton connections. Media Matters' special projects director, C. Neel Lattimore, was Clinton's press secretary when she was first lady.
And Brock is close to Bill Clinton's former chief of staff John Podesta, founder of the powerhouse Democratic think tank Center for American Progress. Podesta, one of Hillary Clinton's top policy advisers, made room for Media Matters in the center's offices before Brock found permanent digs for the group.
But that’s not all. According to Perazzo, the Hillary connection to Media Matters goes much deeper:
Media Matters and Hillary Clinton are further linked by their respective relationships with three of the most influential leftist operatives in the world—George Soros, Morton Halperin, and John Podesta. All three of these men are intimately involved with a vital think tank called the Center for American Progress (CAP)—which, according to Cybercast News Service’s research, “was instrumental in getting Brock’s media group off the ground”; which helped launch Media Matters on May 3, 2004; and which maintains a tight bond with Brock’s organization to this day.
By Noel Sheppard
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 9:05pmGood for Maliki.
Maliki agrees with Obama's troop withdrawal plan. This is good news for Iraq & America.
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By Guy FawkesJuly 19, 2008 - 2:49pmLMAO!
john.he.is
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By Guy FawkesJuly 19, 2008 - 2:51pmBy Guy FawkesJuly 19, 2008 - 2:51pm
That was funny!
I like the ending: "Like Hope but different"
Did you see the video of the VP candidate that drew a blank on McCain's economic policy? What was his name? Funny as hell. I hope McCain selects him so we can call them dumb and dumber.
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By f u bush2July 19, 2008 - 3:00pmBy f u bush2July 19, 2008 - 3:00pm
I hadn't even heard of this episode. Please dig up the video.
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By Guy FawkesJuly 19, 2008 - 3:02pmBy Guy FawkesJuly 19, 2008 - 3:02pm
Now I remember: Mark Sanford
video here
He is one of the front runners for VP candidate. LOL
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By f u bush2July 19, 2008 - 3:10pmBy f u bush2July 19, 2008 - 3:10pm
I doubt if he's a front runner after that. :-D
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By Guy FawkesJuly 19, 2008 - 3:20pmTo Sen. Backtrack Obumbler: The Flip Flopping Flunkie!
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By SheddJuly 19, 2008 - 6:00pmBy skeety-pooJuly 19, 2008 - 6:00pm
He may have crashed most of the planes that he flew, but McSame is quite the navigator when it comes to driving the Flip-Flop Express!
McSame's Flip-Flop Express
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By Guy FawkesJuly 19, 2008 - 6:23pmor is it your
papa?
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By leftysrsickJuly 19, 2008 - 6:58pmHell, the man can't even decide if he's black or white.
He's just another Ivy league preppy.
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 7:03pmGW Bush...the Dim Reaper
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 19, 2008 - 8:35pmWho's skeetypoo?
Your Momma?
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By leftysrsickJuly 19, 2008 - 6:51pmJuly 18, 2008 http://counterterrorismblog.org/
Hizballah Terrorist Samir Kuntar Basks in Freedom While Syria Tortures Innocent Lebanese
By Andrew Cochran
On July 16, I posted a report from CTB Newslinks Assistant Editor Phillip Smyth on the release in Lebanon of convicted terrorist Samir Kuntar. Here is a follow-up report from Phillip.
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As the number one star in the Hizballah “Divine Victory” lineup, Samir Kuntar has been the flaming sword that Hizballah holds aloft to show the Lebanese and the world that Nasrallah is in charge. Promising to strike Israel again, Kuntar said, “I return today from Palestine, but believe me, I return to Lebanon only in order to return to Palestine.” Kuntar went beyond just attacking the “Little Satan” (Israel), and moved onto criticizing the “Great Satan” (the United States of America). While attending a ceremony honoring the recently assassinated Hizballah terrorist-extraordinaire, Imad Mughnieh, Kuntar let his true feelings be known. "We swear to God...to continue on [Mughnieh’s] same path and not to retreat until we achieve the same stature that Allah bestowed on you." Mughnieh was implicated or accused of organizing operations such as the hijacking of TWA Flight 847, the Beirut Marine Barracks bombing, and the 1983 bombing of the US embassy in Beirut.
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 6:55pmhttp://www.kuna.net.kw/NewsAgenciesPublicSite/ArticleDetails.asp
ISLAMABAD, July 19 (KUNA) -- More than 50 people have been killed in clashes between two rival militant groups in a Pakistani tribal agency, bordering Afghanistan, despite a ceasefire brokered by two senior Afghan Taliban commanders.
Two rival militant groups, one Baitullah Mehsud-led Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and the other Taliban Commander Shah Khalid-led militant group, have been fighting for the past three days for the control of the Mohmand tribal agency.
Local press reports said Saturday that the fighting between two rival militant groups took an ugly turn yesterday, with more than 50 militants killed and dozens injured.
The two groups were running separate training centres and had set up checkpoints on roadsides, said reports.
After two days of fighting, they said, a two-member Jirga comprising two senior Afghan Taliban commanders, Ustad Mohammad Yasir and Maulvi Sadre Azam, mediated between them and brokered a ceasefire on Thursday night.
However, fighting between the well-armed militants of the two groups started again on Friday morning and was still ongoing.
Tribal sources told KUNA that the two sides were using sophisticated weapons and ammunition, including mortars and rockets. They said the three-day fighting had claimed more than 60 lives, while several were wounded on both sides. (end) amn.ema KUNA 190900 Jul 08NNNN
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 6:57pmhttp://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\07\19\story_1
NWFP government hits back at Baitullah’s five-day ultimatum
PESHAWAR: The NWFP government will not resign, nor become hostage to any militant group, Chief Minister (CM) Ameer Haider Khan Hoti and Senior Minister Bashir Ahmed Bilour said on Friday. Both were, in separate statements to the media, responding to Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan chief Baitullah Mehsud who issued on Thursday a five-day ultimatum for the provincial government to resign or “face dire consequences”. CM Hoti said the provincial government had “sent the army to Hangu as a precautionary measure”, and not to target any particular group. “Supremacy of law shall be ensured at all costs, and no one will be allowed to kill security forces,” said Bilour, who is also the key government negotiator in the peace talks with Swat militants. iqbal khattak/app
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By fu bush3July 19, 2008 - 6:59pmNew Hampshire is accepting free oil this year
Now all of New England will benefit from the generosity of Venezuela.
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By f u bush2July 19, 2008 - 11:10pmThe Bush economy...
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By f u bush2July 19, 2008 - 11:15pmCalifornia gets it
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By f u bush2July 19, 2008 - 11:18pmWhy can't these threads ever stay on subject?
CNN.com reported that Maliki was misunderstood. The situtation has to continue to improve before any withdrawal. As I understood it Obama was calling for a withdrawal, period.
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By richaduJuly 20, 2008 - 12:56amObamalamadingdong Finally Get's It; Other Leftists (As Usual)...
..Don't
Obama, Democrats, and the Surge: They were against it before it worked.
Excerpts:
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Conclusion:Ignore the left and do what's right, like voting against liberal Democrats and implementing the surge in Iraq to ensure that we win this completely justified and necessary war.
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By SheddJuly 20, 2008 - 1:53amBy SheddJuly 20, 2008 - 1:53am
I read what you posted and it seems to be right wing propaganda.
I'm actually quite happy to see that Bush and McCain are now copying Obama's strategies on Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. They of course pretend not to be by using different labels like "horizon" for timeline".
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By f u bush2July 20, 2008 - 2:44am