Many in the movement do not agree with these claims!

The fact is, the vast majority of the 9/11 Truth Movement is divided on the issue of the Pentagon, so presenting this case to the public with no opposing view from within is just wrong.

An excellent paper refuting the claims of CIT and it's hoax film is here --

http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/05/critical-review-of-pentacon-smo...

Many more also believe that AA77 DID indeed hit the Pentagon --

* http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html
The "Pod People" And The Plane That Crashed Into the Pentagon

* http://www.oilempire.us/pentagon.html
Rumsfeld's "Pentagon missile" hoax: the most important 9/11 "truth" disinformation

* http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagontrap.html
The Pentagon No-757-Crash Booby Trap

These are from *within* the movement. This is why the final cut of Loose Change was altered, to reflect this disagreement.

I urge you to host those who do not agree with the claims of CIT or the Pilots group.

Unfortunately, I've met both in the DC subway system before they were notorious. Several years ago, Silverstein stopped me because he noticed my art portfolio and needed an artist for his short-lived porn "museum" on M Street. I paid a short visit to his Red Light Museum only to dissuade another artist from working for him. He was later unsuccessfully sued by an employee who claimed he was using his strip club businesses to launder drug money. This porn and drug connection deserves 9/11 scrutiny. About 10 years ago, Olson was illegally handing out flyers in the subway urging white women to have as many kids as possible to "prop up bankrupt Social Security". I recognized that anti-women's health drivel and got in his face to accuse him of being a pedophile or sweatshop owner, then reported him to Metro officials. How infuriating that women having sensibly smaller families was going to be blamed for the planned GOP/military/oil complex looting of our Treasury. More recently I learned that Barbara Olson's family was being sued and that her "death" might help make the suit go away.

Thank you so much for inviting so many experts to debate this topic. Per usual, however, one of the most knowledgeable researchers on this topic (hardly anyone interviews him) is Nafeez Ahmed, author of The War on Truth. While he dissects the 9/11 Commission Report, he doesn't deal with the crash at the Pentagon, the alleged crash at Shanksville or the collapse of the Towers. Instead, he examines the contextual evidence on Al Qeda and Western intelligence agencies and war plans, focusing on who what knew when. The evidence is damning--again, without touching the Pentagon, Shanksville or the collapse of the towers. Please, have him on. His analysis is devastating and well worth challenging. If he's already been on and I've missed it, please accept my apology.

Rob

Good luck with getting "pomeroo" (Ron Wieck) to refrain from ad hominem attacks -- based on our experiences with him at 911blogger.com, it ain't gonna happen. ("Pomeroo" was his self-selected user name on the site. Kinda cute, don't you think?)

http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog

Quit filibustering!

i don't know what's true about any of the events that did (or did not) take place on sept 11. your show provides a variety of perspectives that are unavailable elsewhere, and for that i thank you.

Thanks for making this show.

If america was better at critical thinking bla bla

it really is self evident

the 50 story blgng left a bigger pile then the 110 stry blding

how did that happen?

the wings did not break off the planes

oh i just can't go on

hi information monitor in the nsc
i hope you are on our side

The person supporting the myth regarding Arabs flying 77 into the Pentagon states that passenger DNA was recovered from within the Pentagon. This relies primarily on the secondhand report that DNA was recovered from all of the passengers of flight 77 by a non-transparent government body. The Gulf of Tonkin body.

That I am aware of, they do not contend to have recovered the DNA of the highjackers. What is more, he contends that charred remains of people in seats were recovered. There are no photos of this, there is no video of this.

It is heresay.

The team supposedly successful in identifying the flight 77 DNA, was also supposedly responsible for successfully identifying the flight 93 DNA. Again, no photos nor video of charred remains, or of any remains. Again, no terrorist DNA. Again, contentions that the plane vaporized.

Vaporized titanium/steel jet engines. Preserved passenger DNA. Hmm...

The passengers did not need to die where the government said they did in order for the government to launch the fascism at home and abroad that they launched, but the government did need to lie about it if they indeed died somewhere else.

The only proof the government defender has is what the government reports to be true.

There was originally a 16-foot diameter hole, that two 9-foot steel/titanium engines which were far apart from eachother supposedly went through. Later, the roof was brought down.

Original Pentagon hole viewed and studied here http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/pentagon.html#bounce

Col. Nelson says that they haven't released the video and should.

Why release the videos when you can blow the "Truth Movement" out of the water with it whenever the cover-up is about to fall apart?

Once they release the video of AA77 hitting, the credibility of most of the many points that question the official version will be tanked in one fell swoop.

The evidence for demolition gets stronger everyday.

The speculation about the Pentagon sinks the strong evidence that already exists and mainly serves as a smokescreen for the overwhelming case at the WTC towers, among other points.

I first learned about these questions from the Mike Malloy show, and from it I became very active in the both the 9-11 Truth and Peace/End-The-War Movements.

Questioning authority is the most patriotic thing we can do in this country.

People have to get over the assumption that just because you ask a question, does not mean you presume to know the answer. To my understanding, that's what seeking the truth is all about.

Peace and Truth!
Steve

It's great to hear David Ray Griffin and Col. Nelson's intelligent, factual analysis of the glaring inconsistencies of the officially distributed version of events. What a shock to the system to hear the snide, arrogant and ridiculous comments of Ronald Wick. Wick's best "contributions" were ad hominum attack on Dr. Griffin, followed by general arrogant and aggressive attitude, and mindblowingly ignorant commentary such as this gem:

"I don't know why any of the 85 videos of the Pentagon weren't released but, I DON"T THINK THEY'D SHOW ANYTHING..." !!! (What?! Rolling my eyes at that moronic statement).

Wick's trying to smear the character of intelligent and credible truthers. He's making unsubstantiated claims. Then he attempts to dismiss *critical* visual evidence that would identify what hit the building.

What's his agenda?

These behaviors seem to indicate that Ronald Wick is a dis-information agent. (Google dis-information tactics) and possibly an agent "plant" in the media (goodle Operation Mockingbird)

I would not want Ronald Wick's karma with him being deliberately complicit in this heinous cover-up! Shame on you, Mr. Wick.