Lieberman is Out of Line

By Booman Tribune

by BooMan

The effort to turn Iran into the latest incarnation of Nazi Germany is deeply dishonest and depressing. For some people, anyone that makes Israel uncomfortable is a de facto
Nazi. Iran has not fought a war of territorial expansion in centuries.
I can't even think of an example in the last 500 years. What's more,
Israel is armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons. Iran has no nuclear
weapons. And, if they did have them, they'd be no more likely to
explode one in Israel than Pakistan is today. If Pakistan were to
attack Israel with nuclear weapons there would be no need for America
to 'obliterate' them because Israel would do the job first.

Iran has its faults. So did the Soviet Union. But the Soviet Union
never used its nuclear weapons. And, unlike the Soviet Union, Iran has
no territorial ambitions. Their support of Hezbollah is as much about
strengthening their Shi'a brethren in Lebanon's internecine political
fights as it is about harassing Israelis. And their alleged support of
Hamas is about having street cred as one of the few Islamic countries
willing to continue the fight post Camp David.

I don't expect Israelis to turn a passive eye to activities that
threaten and sometimes kill their citizens. Israelis are rightly
angered by both Iran's actions and their irresponsible rhetoric. But
Iran poses a low-level threat, not an existential one. The Iranians are
not suicidal.

Moreover, it pays to remember that even Nixon and Kissinger met
repeatedly with our communist adversaries in China, North Vietnam, and
the Soviet Union. They talked to the Soviet ambassador almost daily.
And that is really what this debate is about. Do we talk to our enemies
or do we just try to kill them?

When President Bush goes before the Knesset and compares Democrats to Nazi appeasers, he's crossing a line. And for Joe Lieberman to issue this statement is just appalling.

 

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Senator Joseph Lieberman (ID-CT)
issued the following statement in response to President Bush’s
statement to the Israel Knesset this morning:

“President Bush got it
exactly right today when he warned about the threat of Iran and its
terrorist proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah. It is imperative that we
reject the flawed and naïve thinking that denies or dismisses the words
of extremists and terrorists when they shout “Death to America” and
“Death to Israel,” and that holds that—if only we were to sit down and
negotiate with these killers—they would cease to threaten us. It is
critical to our national security that our commander-in-chief is able
to distinguish between America’s friends and America’s enemies, and not
confuse the two.”

What does Joe want to do? Kill all the Iranians? Kill all the Lebanese?
Kill all the Gazans? That kind of exterminationist thinking is a lot
closer to NaziThink than Joe would like to admit. But it's implicit in
his logic. And why does Joe Lieberman say that these groups threaten
'us'? Has Hezbollah attacked America, or attacked Americans in the last
twenty years? Has Hamas, ever?

You want to know what has made Israel safer than anything else in its
history? The peace treaties that Carter hammered out with Egypt and
Clinton hammered out with Jordan. That was accomplished by talking, not
fighting. Israel no longer faces any credible threat of land invasion,
and they have the last two Democratic presidents to thank for it.
Presidents Reagan and Bush encouraged two disastrous invasions of
Lebanon. That's the kind of terrible advice Israel has received from
Republican leaders that are supposed to be strong on terrorism. Prior
to the 1982 invasion of Lebanon, suicide bombing was almost unheard of
in the Islamic world, and Iran's influence was almost completely
contained within their own borders.

Comparing Iran to Nazi Germany is a grave insult to our intelligence. Even our Secretaries of Defense and State
recognize the necessity and advisability of engaging Iran. Is it any
wonder why the Democrats kicked Joe Lieberman out of the party? I don't
know what it would take to convince him that his policies make Israel
less secure. History is so stark and decisive on the matter, that I
suppose Lieberman just doesn't read it.

By hufflarry2000May 15, 2008 - 3:55pm

Really? Check this out...

http:// news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4617398.stm

ISFAHAN - Uranium conversion plant
Iran is building a plant at a nuclear research facility to convert uranium ore into three forms:

Hexafluoride gas - used in gas centrifuges
Uranium oxide - used to fuel reactors, albeit not the type Iran is constructing
Metal - often used in the cores of nuclear bombs. The IAEA is concerned about the metal's use, as Iran's reactors do not require it as fuel.

NATANZ - Uranium enrichment plant
Iran resumed uranium enrichment work at Natanz in July 2004, after a halt during negotiations with leading European powers over its programme.

It announced in September 2007 that it had installed 3,000 centrifuges, the machines that do the enrichment.

This is the facility at the heart of Iran's dispute with the United Nations Security Council.

The Council is concerned because the technology used for producing fuel for nuclear power can be used to enrich the uranium to a much higher level to produce a nuclear explosion.

ARAK - Heavy water plant
The existence of a heavy water facility near the town of Arak first emerged with the publication of satellite images by the US-based Institute for Science and International Security in December 2002.

Heavy water is used to moderate the nuclear fission chain reaction either in a certain type of reactor - albeit not the type that Iran is currently building - or produce plutonium for use in a nuclear bomb.

But that's ok Chamberlin keep your head in the sand and appease Imademonjihad....GWB will take care of it for you...WAITAMINUTE...Wasn't it HILLARY the voted FOR war against Saddam AND VOTED FOR the Kyl-Lieberman amendment!

"My presidency will be al Qaeda's worst nightmare." -John McCain Sep 4, 2007