Who cares about his 'Lord' forgiving him! Even his wife; that's HER business.

The only ones that matter in his political career are the VOTERS, The People! So the 'Lord' and wife are not our concern!

But, it is clear that this BENEFITS John McCain the MOST! As pointed out on the show the Edwards' situation -- having an affair with an ill wife at home -- is a direct parallel to McCain's past. If the Dems want to defend Edwards, then they will NOT be able to attack McCain's lack of personal integrity/morality in his family life.

So there IS a motive to smear Edwards.

So was it possible to FRAME Edwards with L'Affaire Videomadam?

Here's a REALLY different read on this, if you have a moment.

MKUltra has lots of technologies with which they've toyed.

Human Sex Pheromones are sure to be among them.

Edwards met the woman at hotel lounge? Is that right? (Were they even introduced?) Does that sound 'normal' for a busy, famous person to take such chances? Timed releases of pheromones could really make a man feel like he's finally found someone who understands/matches his sexual nature/chemistry.

Of course that chemistry could happen naturally too. But I think it likely that it can be synthesized as well and used to entrap the unwary.

[Gee, I always seem to be approaching just about ANYthing from this sort of perspective.]

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in the beauty of their dreams.--Eleanor Roosevelt

i missed a lot of the show. I am interested in David's take on Edwards. I am disgusted. the financial aspect of it along with the hypocrisy of using his family to portray a fake image really bothers me. I am glad I chose to support Obama because John's voting record was so different then his progressive propaganda I think he is a fraud. I am glad he brought issues of poverty up in the campaign. That makes it worse that he gave money from his poverty campaign to his mistress.

Uh oh, all of a sudden, there is a white elephant in the room. Republicans are running to pile on Edwards and are desperately attempting to bridge and link Obama to Edwards. Unfortunately, Obama is still on his first wife. Unlike "McCain". Oops, did I go there? That dark and damp place where the media seems to NOT want to go?

You know what this does????

This opens John McCain's rather "sordid" past to close inspection. Cheating on a wife who had been disfigured in a car accident (true, not a disease). The mistress was 24 and a multi millionaire. It's difficult to hold it against a man when the mistress is both "young" and "rich". It seems somehow less "dirty". The only minus is that they married only a month after the divorce from "Quasimodo" became final. I guess that makes everything OK and "moral" according to how Republicans see "morals".

The media seems to want to stay away from things that are both McCain and "sordid". That means they are staying away from all things "McCain". "Oh, we KNOW McCain, but we don't KNOW Obama", is the media mantra endlessly repeated. When you ask the average American what they know about McCain, they say, "He's a war hero." When asked why he's a hero, you are met with blank stares and shrugged shoulders.

Just to highlight the difference, I suspect every single voter in America knows Obama's middle name, his wife's name, his pastor's name, the name of the church he attended for twenty years and personal info about his family.

Most don't know McCain's middle name, his religious affiliation, that he owns 9 homes, that he blew up or crashed several planes, at one point was under investigation for the deaths of over 130 men. Certainly most voters don't know that he graduated 5th from the bottom out of 899 cadets out of the Navel Academy. Most don't even know Cindy McCain is his second wife, or that she is a drug addict who narrowly escaped prison by going to rich peoples free pass, "rehab".

If you compare Obama and McCain side by side, all of a sudden,. the question becomes, "Why is McCain the media darling"? Aren't the media also American citizens? Please give Obama and McCain equal airtime as well as equal scrutiny.

Is John McCain sounding and looking more like Tim Conway or what

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First, I would NEVER HAVE VOTED FOR EDWARDS, HE STABBED US IN THE BACK WITH KERRY IN 04, so YES, HIS PRESIDENTIAL OPTIONS ARE COMPLETELY OVER.

Second, he stabbed everyone in the Democratic Party in the back by starting his campaign knowing he was hiding something.

Third, OK, we get it, he hid it to protect his children and thought if it came out, the fact that he lied about sex is such an old issue, it wouldn't matter.

What matters is the LIE!!!
The lying-- business as usual for DC politicians.
This is PRECISELY WHY WE VOTED FOR OBAMA.

We can use the Edwards thing to remind Americans why we voted for Obama.
We can use Edwards to remind America that JOHN MCCAIN lied about his affair with Cindy for years before he dumped his first wife for the rich girlfriend.
Does marrying her make it ok? I think not, especially since there are words on tape calling her a *itch, suggesting she enter a topless contest (obviously reminding us she is rich enough to buy good breasts, because at her age, what would they look like if they were natural? He is so completely insenstive on every issue).

We can use the Edwards thing to remind America why we need DC change.
Edwards was on TV saying things haven't changed.
Maybe for him, since he is obviously a seasoned liar, I mean politician.

For us, we Democrats (ex Democrat, Democrat at heart for me now, having left the party because of the refusal by the Democratic leadership to honor our constitution and demand impeachment, they have refused to demand impeachment for political reasons), his attitude is business as usual.

Edwards capacity to get elected is completely over. He can still be a valuable asset to promote the very important issues he carelessly threatened with his pointless and meaningless rhetoric (warts n'all, yeah, liar). His years of good work will not be discarded, his capacity to hold any elected office? Hopefully over.

This is an indication of exactly how the Democrats are attempting to calculate how much of the law and personal ethics they can ignore and still get elected.

I think he and Elizabeth lied to protect their children.
They knew they were not going to be nominated by the time the story really came out.
They denied it to protect their children.
Real Family Values, DC family values.
Lie until you get caught and then lie more and then admit it and say business as usual.
DC Values.
America needs change on both sides of the aisle.

TALK ABOUT "BUSINESS AS USUAL".

The DNC has been complicit with Pelosi's use of the constitution as a political tool, instead of a foundation for following our laws.
They have done everything they could to not talk about ignoring impeachment.
The DNC wants the White House so badly they are refusing to start impeachment hearings since winning in 2006.
Are any of them surprised Edwards, who was complicit with the lies of the Kerry campaign lied to us even before the start of this process?
Who are they kidding?

Obama can use this as an prime example of the kind of thorough change we need!!!

Obama can use this as a reason to remind America of all the lies McCain has been telling us.

John Edwards, what were you thinking?
Do I feel betrayed by you?
I feel betrayed by the entire Democratic Leadership...which is why I am now officially registered as "non affiliated".
Both apples (major parties) are too rotten to pick.

I will vote for Obama, and not feel too betrayed when he flip flops as soon as he gets in.

We are abundantly aware of who makes policy in this country and who gets the benefits of the laws and who can must obey the laws and who can get away with anything they want!

Hint: It's not the general public.
In fact, if we cause too much problem nowadays, we are put on a "watch list".

When will we be required to start signing off with Sig Heil?
Obama, free us from these chains of "business as usual" (even today, I heard McCain say lobbying hasn't harmed our country!!! OMG, can he get any worse? Unequivocally, YES)

Edwards failed himself. The Democratic votes (I was one til after the primary), chose the right leader. Democracy does work. We need to use this to move the conversation about the facts about McCain, and even the DC failed leadership.

Americans are hungry to re-establish a country in which the laws are followed, one in which the constitution is honored, one in which our elected officials will do the difficult thing and protect us from the enemies from within (they are a plenty), one in which our media holds itself to a standard of objectivism without corporate interests.

When John Conyers held a meeting on the Bush Administration and Presidential Authority instead of impeachment hearings, why are we surprised to find outa presidential contender lied to the American people about sex? Who are we kidding?

Why do we always allow the Republicans to frame the conversation? We know why.
They run the show, and buy off the right Democrats, so that no matter what, our constitution is ignored and big business controls everything, including what we get to know about issues.

More humiliating to be an American as each day passes.
WE NEED OBAMA MORE THAN EVER NOW.

I kept waiting for an explanation about why Edwards visited for five hours into the early morning. You didn't even bring it up. That was a poor and repetitive discussion.

After his nightline interview, I'm so done with him. It was disingenuous and he came off slimy. Even the words he used to characterize Elizabeth as a "fine" and "sexy" woman didn't seem genuine. I'm so sorry for her. I think perhaps he's a creation of hers. if she runs, I'll vote for her. He and his bimbo can retired to their several mansions and chase each other around the bedroom for all of me.

And David, yesterday you had Arianna on. Why didn't you let her finish her comments? You have a problem with interrupting people and it is annoying. If you listen to the last five minutes, you'll hear yourself cut her off and then spend an inordinate amount of time sayng good bye. Get over yourself!

I have occasionally turned you off when filling in for Rachel. You know your stuff so quit trying so hard to prove it. Let your guests have the floor.

David,

I listen to the podcast off and on throughout the week between listening to Rachel's daily show so I'm just now getting to the end of this show. One day I'll try to listen to the show live and call in.

When you were saying that politicians need to be able to push back and say they aren't going to address the inappropriate questions and how Bush was "smart" enough to do it, it got me to thinking. Do you think Bush may have been better able to do that kind of push back since he is "born again?" I'm a non-believer like you, so I might be wrong in my understanding, but don't "born again" evangelicals claim that anything they did before being "born again" can't be held against them or something? Would a non-"born again" politician have more difficulty in making that kind claim to not discuss inappropriate issues?

I really enjoyed your interview with Jared Polis, the first openly-gay person to win a congressional primary. I look forward to the day an openly-atheistic person can do the same.

-Leighton in Chicago